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Olivier Usher's avatar

It's a striking graph but I'm not persuaded it really backs up the thesis. What's going on with the children of immigrants? They are native speakers.

(A minor point, and I seem to be fighting a losing battle on this, but - there's no such thing as a 'second generation immigrant'. I didn't immigrate to the UK, how can I be an 'immigrant'?)

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That is a strong pattern. The successful education outcomes for children of immigrants in the UK (and Australia) are well known. It's been argued that this is the main cause of "the London effect" and there was a fascinating study done on PISA data showing that children of Chinese ethnicity did equally well in Shanghai and Australia, suggesting it was cultural and not the school system. However, I've not seen the anglophone theory before: interesting! My experience is that plenty of immigrants to the UK speak very limited English initially but make remarkable progress with language when they're in school and I don't see why that wouldn't be true in non-anglophone countries if immigrants are equally well-integrated. This makes me think it is either a well-established selection effect already, or Anglophone countries are consistently better at integration, or a bit of both.

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